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easygoinperson
Posted 8/1/2007 10:33 PM (#5585)
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Tradition Guitars

Tradition Guitars was founded in 1998 by a man named Jim Matthews a 30 year veteran of the musical instrument market. Jim's idea was to "Offer the highest quality instrument for an affordable price to the independent dealer." In 2004 Jim Matthews passed away and his friends and partners kept the company alive striving to produce and create top notch quality guitars at a competitive price.

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They have quite a few models and colors available, click to see the full lineup, and the prices range from an incredible $279 for an S/S/S basswood bodied beauty all the way to a hollow body that I played at NAMM that pretty much nailed the Gibson ES-335 except for the cost, a fraction of the original at $1,249.

An interesting anecdote about Tradition Guitars is that they are set up and shipped out of a horse barn in Indiana. The company is made up of bass and guitar players, and new creations are tested by professionals, and perfected before any producen takes place. Tradition's mission is geared to the production of excellent playing and sounding guitars, along with a very important attribute to any small or big time artist - affordability. A list of artists who play Tradition Guitars can be found here.

I regret that I didn't get to plug these fine instruments directly into and good amp to test their true tone. I would have liked to have plugged a few of them into the clean channel of a Fender Hot Rod series amp as that is my tone "test" for any guitar. They had me playing through a POD which of course I am not a big fan of therefore I can't make a clear statement on the tone quality. I do know however that Tradition makes their own pickups and they have new pickup designs on the way. Although I was assured over the phone that the professionals who play Tradition guitars prefer to keep the Tradition pickups rather than swapping them out for fancier and pricier alternatives.

If you can imagine I played LOTS of different guitars from many different price ranges, companies, vintages and styles. I played 61' Les Pauls, a $100k Martin, various Warrior guitars, a really hot custom Suhr as well as top of the line Strats, Jacksons and Charvels. I played way too many guitars to remember or even name and they all sounded great. One guitar company stood out from the rest and one guitar company had a line of guitars that were all instantly comfortable in my hands. A line of guitars that felt like my guitar or like I had already played them for years. Tradition guitars were by far my favorite playing electric guitars at the entire show.

Tradition takes pride in saying that they build guitars the "old way" though I thought a lot of the features and overall product fit nicely into the modern market. One of these features, the all new Trem King, really caught my eye. When Rusty Bickford a musician who started his career in 1998 met Sheldon Lavineway inventor of the Trem King he knew it was a perfect fit for Tradition, a company that he had been handling the manufacturing responsibilities for since 2002.

The S/S/S Strat style guitar that I played was not only setup beautifully, the neck and frets were just perfect. Everything about it was just so familiar, I really felt like it was my guitar and the Trem King was like the missing link for what I always wanted from a tremolo system. The Trem King allowed it to feel like a Strat with a Gibson bridge and with the ability to bend the strings up and down!

Trem King

The Trem King is a fixed bridge tremolo system that dive bombs and screams! The design is quite ingenious, having a fixed bridge promotes incredible tuning stability as well as string balance and tone. The Trem King is offered in two models, the TK-1 and TK-2 and three finishes (chrome, black and gold).

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Imagine if you will, a tremelo bridge system that incoporates a split tone block, when dived one section moves and when pulled, another section moves. At rest, the two halves rest togther in a fixed position - always zeroing out. The saddles never move, the bridge never moves, and when you bend a string without actuating the trem, nothing else moves either - finally a trem that operates like a fixed bridge when bending strings, pure precision. Oh but wait! There is more! How about being able to drop tune on the fly without retuning the other strings? Or even breaking a string and keep right on playing in tune? To see the Trem King in action watch the video. I was impressed with it, though nothing quite compares to trying the Trem King for yourself - sweet!

But the strings have to go over the saddles right? Thats right, and thats why Trem King has a supply agreement with Graph Tech to supply their inserts for smooth an reliable slip transfer on the saddles when the tremelo is actuated. Having a fixed bridge that is deck mounted means more sustain as well - with more string energy transferred to the guitar, instead of wasted as it is in the current popular designs. With very few moving parts, wear is at a minimum and the amount of force to use it, is likewise minimal.

The Trem King is also available directly from Trem King for less than the traditional pricing on current units that provide for dives and pulls. Full details on retro-fitting exisiting units on guitars isn't complete yet, but the questions are in the pipe. There is some mention on the website in this regard though. Primarily, the TK-1 is a drop in replacement for Strat style trems with aminimum of work. Tell your local dealer to contact Trem King and stock a few!

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As some of you might know I am quite the anti-whammy person and I love the advantages of a fixed bridge guitar and that's why the Trem King on the Tradition guitars appealed to me so much. The price and the playability plus thisl design and features of these two companies merging into one fine product is why I chose them out of everything I saw at the NAMM show. I wanted to find something new and exciting at the NAMM show and I was quite satisfied with what I found.

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I am personally attracted to playability in a guitar over anything else, I think with the right amp, EQ and playing any guitar can be made to sound good. Not every every guitar plays well though and guitars with a modern double locking tremolo system are just problematic and a nightmare for tuning and string changing. I have no doubt in my mind that I chose the right product for review at the NAMM show this year, for the price I don't think you'll find a better complete package than a Tradition guitar equipped with the Trem King tremolo system - ask you local dealer to make an inquiry and get one in stock today!

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Luigi
Posted 8/1/2007 11:05 PM (#5587 - in reply to #5585)
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Thanks for a terrific article Chris!!

Should be interesting to see how many different types of existing trems the Trem King may be able to retrofit, this is actually kinda exciting, especially if they get a foothold!

And I was there with you at that booth - sorry my pics came out a little blurry, but the really did have some fine looking clones of traditional designs - very well done!
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guitarboy2828
Posted 8/2/2007 12:35 AM (#5589 - in reply to #5585)
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Great article..
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713
Posted 8/2/2007 11:08 AM (#5592 - in reply to #5585)
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very cool indeed. great article and find chris!

do all the tradition guitars with a tremolo have the trem king trem? even the $279 s/s/s strat?
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Chas
Posted 8/2/2007 2:16 PM (#5593 - in reply to #5585)
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very cool!
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Andy
Posted 8/2/2007 9:17 PM (#5594 - in reply to #5585)
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I'd think some major brand-name guitar companies will start offering these soon.
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Ricky
Posted 8/2/2007 10:03 PM (#5597 - in reply to #5585)
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A trem that stays in tune...and on an affordable guitar? And I can actually USE the trem and it stay in tune? It can't be true!

Great article, Chris!
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gu1tarb0b
Posted 8/3/2007 3:38 PM (#5604 - in reply to #5585)
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this thing is just what im looking for, thanks chris!
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recklessabandonman
Posted 8/6/2007 7:28 PM (#5641 - in reply to #5592)
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713 - 8/2/2007 9:08 AM

do all the tradition guitars with a tremolo have the trem king trem? even the $279 s/s/s strat?
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easygoinperson
Posted 8/7/2007 12:18 AM (#5644 - in reply to #5585)
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I guess y'all are gonna make me click on the "Tradition Guitars" link on the top of the page so that I can go to the very easy to use website and click two links to find you all this: http://www.traditionguitars.com/guitars/g/g10.html

It's ok to go to their site, it's not gonna bite you and it will probably answer most of your questions. If it doesn't answer your question I'm sure they won't mind if you use this part of the website: http://www.traditionguitars.com/contact.html to get your questions answered...
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Codyyy
Posted 8/7/2007 11:38 AM (#5657 - in reply to #5644)
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easygoinperson - 8/7/2007 1:18 AM I guess y'all are gonna make me click on the "Tradition Guitars" link on the top of the page so that I can go to the very easy to use website and click two links to find you all this: http://www.traditionguitars.com/guitars/g/g10.html It's ok to go to their site, it's not gonna bite you and it will probably answer most of your questions. If it doesn't answer your question I'm sure they won't mind if you use this part of the website: http://www.traditionguitars.com/contact.html to get your questions answered...

I like the MTP series the most ^_^ 

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hellcat
Posted 8/10/2007 2:08 PM (#5721 - in reply to #5585)
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i must admit... the video on the site really sold it to me. i think this is a piece of gear im probably gonna end up buying :D
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Luigi
Posted 8/11/2007 2:35 PM (#5731 - in reply to #5585)
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After talking to the 'inventor' of the Trem King, the one thing it doesn't do well is 'flutter' - thats that little micro-movement at/near the 'zero' position. The reason is the when it gets to the zero position, there is a slight detent that secures it to zero - don't know if they are going to work on that in future designs or not, but the unit hands down beats everything thing else out there on all the other features.

Another thing that came up in our conversation was retrofits and guitars with flaws - if your guitar has problems with it already, this unit will bring them out. The engineering of the Trem King requires exacting standards from a guitar, for instance, if your guitar has a crack in the neck anywhere, a bad tuner, a loose truss rod or a flimsy neck... the Trem King will not stay in tune properly.
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Codyyy
Posted 8/11/2007 10:00 PM (#5746 - in reply to #5585)
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Haha, flutter is practically the only way I use trems when I have them. lol

I guess the Trem King isn't for me.
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Eric Sopanen
Posted 8/12/2007 5:54 PM (#5759 - in reply to #5585)
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Chris, how was the tone of the thing? Some trems, like Kahler roller systems, really deaden the ring of the guitar, and FR's tend to be a bit metallic. Just curious, withn the Graphtec saddles, how the tone was affected. Also curious about the durability and length of life of the saddles, but obviously it's too soon to know about that
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easygoinperson
Posted 8/12/2007 6:04 PM (#5761 - in reply to #5585)
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Eric - I really wish I had a good clean amp when I played these guitars at NAMM. Everything plugged into a POD and a GT-8, so I really couldn't comment on tone quality. I can say however that the sustain was really good and I don't believe anything was deadened. Which is really one of the main things I like about it being a fixed bridge trem. As far as the durability/length of the saddles, you might contact someone at Trem King...
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Luigi
Posted 8/13/2007 12:15 AM (#5765 - in reply to #5585)
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On the site, regarding the GraphTech saddles, they say as they get worn, rotate them. They can also be replaced, I would imagine the life in one position to be around a year of normal use. I think using hardened rollers may have been better, but that would likely have driven the price point up - though may be a future feature as they make some money back on the original design/investment. Hard to tell whats in the minds of folks when they make something, but it usually ends up revolving around dollars.

Like Chris, I was impressed by the sustain of the fixed bridge, since the saddles are mounted directly to the fixed mounted assembly and never move - the bridge is essentially a traditional hardtail setup. You can tell playing it unplugged and feeling the resonance through the bridge to the top.
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easygoinperson
Posted 8/13/2007 2:54 PM (#5777 - in reply to #5585)
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Also, you get that tighter string tension...
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bobguitarplayer
Posted 8/18/2007 2:50 PM (#5832 - in reply to #5585)
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I purchased a Trem King and paid a local luthier to install it on my MIM 50 year anniversary gold Strat. This is a beautiful guitar and I was hesitant thinking it might not look right. The gold Trem King looks like it was made for the guitar and I could not be happier with the look but that is only part of the story. This is the fix for Strats. I played all the usual riffs that normally detune my guitar and behold it was still tuned. When I play a drone string and bend another the drone doesn't go flat. It plays like a fixed bridge because it is a fixed bridge. It is a great design, very simple and solid feeling. It smoothly bends 2 or more steps down and bends up almost the same and always goes back in tune. I am impressed.
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713
Posted 8/19/2007 1:53 AM (#5837 - in reply to #5657)
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Codyyy - 8/7/2007 12:38 PM

easygoinperson - 8/7/2007 1:18 AM I guess y'all are gonna make me click on the "Tradition Guitars" link on the top of the page so that I can go to the very easy to use website and click two links to find you all this: http://www.traditionguitars.com/guitars/g/g10.html It's ok to go to their site, it's not gonna bite you and it will probably answer most of your questions. If it doesn't answer your question I'm sure they won't mind if you use this part of the website: http://www.traditionguitars.com/contact.html to get your questions answered...

I like the MTP series the most ^_^

if you don't look at the headstock it looks like a PRS to me 

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